I feel like I'm one of the only people who really loved Pedro's version of Reed
It seems like a lot of people have come around from the "they totally miscast Reed! this is going to ruin the movie!!" hysteria, but it still seems like most people aren't really *in love* with this version of the character. They just think he was *okay* at best.
I can understand the complaint that "Pedro is in everything nowadays, so I struggle to see beyond the actor" but I thought he was able to really immerse himself in the role in a way that I didn't expect. Whenever I saw the trailers for this film, Pedro always stuck out as the one who just seemed like himself. It didn't feel like he had blended into the role of Reed Richards in the same way that Vanessa, Joseph and Ebon has blended in their roles. It was just Pedro Pascal wearing a Fantatic Four suit. Almost like cosplay.
The film itself really surprised me though by playing to Pedro's strengths as an actor. He was able to be loveable, questionable, intelligent and badass without any of it seeming forced. No matter what he did (even suggesting that they hand over their child to Galactus), you still liked him because Pedro is inherently likeable. I also genuinely bought into him being the smartest person in every room. When he would stress himself out by trying to science his way out of a problem, I really believed it. He didn't play Reed like your typical movie nerd. He was more dynamic than that. I thought he did a great job of elevating the material so that Reed was slightly more interesting and complex than your usual blockbuster leading man.
Thoughts?
I can understand the complaint that "Pedro is in everything nowadays, so I struggle to see beyond the actor" but I thought he was able to really immerse himself in the role in a way that I didn't expect. Whenever I saw the trailers for this film, Pedro always stuck out as the one who just seemed like himself. It didn't feel like he had blended into the role of Reed Richards in the same way that Vanessa, Joseph and Ebon has blended in their roles. It was just Pedro Pascal wearing a Fantatic Four suit. Almost like cosplay.
The film itself really surprised me though by playing to Pedro's strengths as an actor. He was able to be loveable, questionable, intelligent and badass without any of it seeming forced. No matter what he did (even suggesting that they hand over their child to Galactus), you still liked him because Pedro is inherently likeable. I also genuinely bought into him being the smartest person in every room. When he would stress himself out by trying to science his way out of a problem, I really believed it. He didn't play Reed like your typical movie nerd. He was more dynamic than that. I thought he did a great job of elevating the material so that Reed was slightly more interesting and complex than your usual blockbuster leading man.
Thoughts?
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the only reed that you can actually see his guilt
also the only reed thats actually smart
My number two gripe is taking an actor that played the exact same character in something else, copy+pasting it in the new role and calling it perfect casting (oh you want Tom Hiddleston to play the tricky brooding Machiavellian villain with black hair? how original.)
My number three gripe is only using surface level A-list actors for like secondary and tiertiary characters.
B) Does not justify something like RDJ Doom, I'm sorry
My only qualm with his appearance is that I think Reed should be taller and leaner, since it's a body type that fits elastic powers rather well. But that qualm isn't enough to derail me from the fact that i absolutely enjoyed his performance as mr fantastic
But as you said,this is just a nitpick that doesn't undercut Pedro's gravitas as Reed
But this isn't Pedro's faullt, he captured Reed to a T
This and "they don't have to make elastic anyway because his main power is his intellect", which my only response is: Why? It's sucha weird cop out
Reed's hallmark as a character in the comic is that he often fuses his intellect and his powers to come up with solutions creatively. Why flatten him into a one-dimensional nerd archetype when he's always portrayed as much more than that?
Watching Black Panther for the first time I was just thinking "This woman is going to be a PROBLEM when she and Tony are inevitably in the same room together; homie might go back to the bottle", but then she got blipped and they never interacted.
This Reed just feels like Banner from the first Avengers without the dark sense of humor and cynicism. I wouldn’t really say he’s an archetypal movie nerd. The 2000s movie Mr. Fantastic honestly fits that description better.
Also three of the examples you listed are pretty much just the snarky genius who doesn’t play by the rules. There is more than one way to flesh out a genius character beyond what you would expect from a nerd.
Experiment-induced genius with a bucket load of trauma who uses snark as a coping mechanism in a gritty outer space mercenary pirate world?
Princess, lead inventor and scientist, sheltered, who basically only uses sass with authority and family?
Dorky, scrappy, genuine, neighborly kid from NYC, who isn’t even snarky?
Smart bumbling unkillable idiot with super strength, who previously had the world of paper on-the-run nightmare?
Reed is the ONLY ACTUAL bonafide nerd. His first reaction to danger was thinking himself into a corner. Not feeling regret or remorse or taking responsibility, not following anyone else’s leads, not becoming a recluse, not putting things off or contesting with other people. Just thinking and chalk.
Now that he’s had to face a giant space-god bad guy, to save his family and the planet, I assume we will see that he tested his limits a lot more over the four years after Galactus.
I swear this movie was a movie about a lot of things, but not so much the F4's actual power set. What kind of threw me was just how much of the movie seemed to be told in glimpses, rather than actual scenes dedicated to displays of their superhuman abilities (except Sue and Franklin, they were great).
*Sue Storm is* ***That Bitch***
Is what the movie felt like, for better and worse
Not that her being awesome detracted from anyone else. Not her fault they generally just stood there and solved their problems with unconvincing "genius" and no fun
but the fantastic four is nothing to play with, either. Johnny is also incredibly powerful
Part of the reason these movies are so popular is the spectacle, the cool effects, showing audiences something they haven't seen before.
where are the cool special effects sequences? They just don't stand out from any other action/disaster movie these days.
This has nothing to do with him but I thought it was funny how they barely utilized his powers. I wondered how they were going to handle it since stretching always looks cartoonish and goofy, and I guess their solution was to just avoid it altogether.
Ultimately we will never get what we truly deserved, which was Stephen Colbert as Reed. The world mourns.
Why be ashamed of that?
No one is going to look ar Reed using his powers and say "oh no, my silly stretchy man is going to look too silly when he gets stretchy"
Pedro was great as Reed!
The one criticism I think is valid is that his actual superpowers were shown to be fairly underwhelming, but admittedly, there was very little action in First Steps. Other than the intro montage at the beginning, the F4 "fought" Silver Surfer, using their ship, and then it was just the climax with Galactus. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie, and I'm really looking forward to seeing more of the F4, but we need some meatier action scenes and a chance for them to really showcase their powers.
He really sold me the uncanniness of Reed as a person. Him tethering on the edge of a happy family man and a mad scientists *makes* it worth it.

Total control, safety the house, plan it out, scan the baby.
He's cosmic baby so none of that matters.
Total control, safety the world, defeat anything, go to defeat Galactus.
Comes home knowing nothing and defeated.
Perfect.
The way Pascal delivers that sentiment made me buy him as Reed.
Admittedly, I haven't read a ton. But I have read some. The comics always seemed like some bullshit Leave it to Beaver family doing some wacky comic book shit.
This makes Reed feel like an actual human being.
Or I'll just get a pet rock.
Also I don't know why F4 isn't liked more. One of my favourite MCU movies
Tony Stark is a brilliant mind and inventor, he understands tech and engineering, and how to build solutions to problems.
But Reed is so intelligent, has such a vast knowledge, he knows exactly how much he *doesn't* know. He's smart, but he's not psychic, he can't read minds or know what people will do. He can plan for the future, he can imagine all sorts of possbilities and variables, but he doesn't KNOW the future, so all his smarts can only go so far.
So his genius feeds his neuroses. He will always be on edge, because his mind is always imagining what COULD be coming, and dreaming up potential solutions for even the most impossible of outcomes. It sounds exhausting.
Yes, you are the only person in the entire world who liked it.
Can’t wait to see his interactions with Doom.
I don't understand how people didn't like this movie. I guess because it's not flashy enough, there's no mindless guy A punches guy B, guess it has too much depth and emotion, people don't want to watch a movie and think and feel.
In the intervening years I had grown somewhat weary of the MCU post No Way Home, and began skipping projects. However ever since that first trailer, something about Fantastic Four First Steps told me to give it a chance, and I'm so glad I did. It gave me the same feeling First Avenger did back in 2011.
I'm aware that neither movie is a masterpiece, but they make me happy and I'll be damned if anyone tries to tell me I'm stupid for liking them.
" It's the only way"
" What is"
"We have to use Franklin as bait"
" That's a terrible plant I hate that plan this is a bad plan"
He knows it's the only way, there is no other way, and he isn't trying to be callous, he is just waiting for everyone else to catch up. He doesn't wanna be the asshole, there's no other way, literally.
The entire movie was just him stressing out about major life changes. I think we needed to see him in lower stakes situations.
Still the best F4 movie imo tho
I think his casting was fine, as were the others.. wish we got a bit more out of Ben as well. It was a decent popcorn Marvel movie but I don't plan to watch it a 2nd time.
Two things that I remember that were off:
- Galactus stretching him just a bit and he’s not managing it at all…
- Drawing a thick red line for the trap, isn’t really what you expect from the smartest man alive…
It's not about Pascal, but rather about the script, which has been brutally cut.
Pedro was an excellent Reed Richards, and I'm eager to see him and the rest of the Fantastic 4 interacting with the other MCU heroes.
His Reed Richards was amazingly portrayed.
2. Sure, he's in everything, but he's not the same in everything. It's not like when Denzel was in everything.